Nikolai Kingsley

MOOSE Apology

From: mirikai kingsley
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 20:02:52 +1000
Subject: apology
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Organization: AnarchArtists

i was rather surprised to learn that Tom Boutell hadn't seen any of my previous apologies for what happened with MOOSE magazine. i'm talking about the first incarnation of MOOSE, not the web-page. well, this is another one. apology, i mean.

for those of you who don't know, i stole messages out of t.b and put them into an ezine called MOOSE. it was stealing, because i didn't ask anyone if i could use the messages. oh, i think i asked Scott Dorsey if we could use "The Portuguese Scientists!" in Moose #23, but that issue never happened, so it doesn't really count. sometimes i'd leave in a name or an email address to identify the author, but not very often. seeing as how we weren't selling MOOSE - we weren't even printing it out - it didn't seem that important to me. i know of less than a dozen people outside of our immediate circle who'd ever HEARD of it, much less ever read any of it.

it sounds like i'm trying to minimise the importance of this, doesn't it? i guess i'm trying to explain *why* i did it. i wish i could convince the injured parties (see below) that i wasn't trying to make a buck out of their creative efforts - incidentally, NOBODY here made ANY profits out of MOOSE -

there was so much wonderful stuff in t.b then, and no-one else i knew then had access to the net. i wanted them to see why i spent hours reading this froup. why i desperately sought it out, eventually being reduced to having it dribble through a fidonet gateway. i never stopped to think that people would react in a negative fashion. when they did, i keep telling myself "it's because they thought you were selling it..." but i don't think that's it.

once, a young man called Cyrus Lesser (also known as You Little Shit, Cyrus) grabbed some lines from one of my stories and started using them as taglines. i asked him to stop; he sneered at me and redoubled his efforts. the anger i felt then wasn't so much that he was using things i'd created, but that i had no power to stop him from using them.

i think i can understand how someone would feel to know that someone out there had been collecting their work and using it for their own purposes without asking. i wish i knew what i could do to make up for it.

there are no longer any links to the original text files on our ftp server. the BBS network that used to carry them, GODNet, recently ceased operations. i haven't looked, but i don't think there are any copies of MOOSE out there on the net.

all that remains is the ill-will i generated. like that character in Bester's 'The Demolished Man', the 2nd class esper who had been kicked out of the esper society, people in talk.bizarre will always stop talking whenever my presence is made known. i'll live with that.

the following is a list of articles that taken out of talk.bizarre and used in MOOSE, along with their rightful authors, as best i could determine using Gerald Oskoboiny's t.b archives.

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  • "Hybrid Vigor", by Curtis Yarvin
  • "Clutchygluck", by Tom Boutell
  • "A Spring Drive", by dan'l (dprosser@titan.ucs.umass.edu)
  • "Love Poem with Ort", by Zvi Gilbert
  • Jeff Vogel's article on having a four-month orgasm
  • a rant about the Freemasons by Scott Dorsey
  • "In the Cafe Ludovic", by Curtis Yarvin
  • "Stuffed Dogs", by Jane Horvath
  • "SSC", by Tom Fawcett (the one where he cancels people's phone calls)
  • "Power Nodule", by Bill Bill
  • "finger fuck", by Curtis Yarvin
  • "Exception to the rules", by anonymus+4360@charcoal.com
  • "walk on dirt", by Bill Bill
  • "Syringe Beach", by Curtis Yarvin
  • "Not recommended for younger readers", by Andrew Solberg
  • "Cortex", by 5150
  • "today aclatter tracks", by Curtis Yarvin
  • "The problem with intimacy", by Mrx
  • "Asparagus Works", by Bill Bill
  • "Amphibious", by Curtis Yarvin
  • "Explaining things to a gun virgin" by "The Saint" (lawrence@ctron.com)
  • "She looked...", by Rob Dobson
  • "What I'm going to do today", by Nikolaus Maack
  • "Porn Observations", by Crisper than Thou
  • "Rolling Stones", by Ilana Stern
  • "1-800-CTS-HELP", by Crisper than Thou
  • "At Last" (you remember? "Serendipity, folks, plain and simple"), by Janis Joplin (111b-ap@sophia.smith.edu)
  • a reply to "Why men die sooner than women", by mandioca@u.washington.edu
  • "Hair", by 5150
  • a poem that i can't find the title of anywhere, by terri@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
  • "A dream" by dan'l (dprosser@titan.ucs.umass.edu)
  • Jonathan Veil's reply to Blair Houghton's article entitled "Orthogonal"
  • "Slice o' life", by dan'l
  • "the hope demon", by Strychnine
  • something about talking to dogs by Crisper Than Thou
  • something about an alchemist by Heckler (pechever@sal-sun43.usc.edu)
  • something by Morissa Sherman about starfish
  • something by Strychnine about bottled angst
  • something by Curtis Yarvin about Bedoins and art students
  • something by Curtis Yarvin about beautiful things lying on a beach
  • something by Laurence Simon about playing Euchre over the phone
  • something by Blair which was taglined "Pyrex to the People"
  • something by Curtis Yarvin about butterflies
  • something by Bill Bill about using antiperspirant as a wetsuit
  • something by Blair about being spanked off the net
  • a post by metraton@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us about the Advanced Research of Fun Foundation
  • something by Scott Milliken about a suicide prevention hotline
  • something by Strychnine that ended "I want my humanity back"
  • something by Michael Alaimo about visiting the parents
  • something by gj156879@prince.carleton.ca about "nice" women
  • something by Crisper Than Thou about having to leave his cat
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